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		<title>Comment on Celestia:  A Whimsical Goodbye by Nepherses Amat</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/23/celestia-a-whimsical-goodbye/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Nepherses Amat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yaay! Thanks for this wonderful commentary, Sapphoria! And so far, AngelGate Celestia is still here! You can still come play! I have been dancing here to the Nutcracker Suite &#38; tubing too! What fun! So come on over &#38; Enjoy! 
Kiss~ Neph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yaay! Thanks for this wonderful commentary, Sapphoria! And so far, AngelGate Celestia is still here! You can still come play! I have been dancing here to the Nutcracker Suite &amp; tubing too! What fun! So come on over &amp; Enjoy!<br />
Kiss~ Neph</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starax: The legend - a full sim art exhibition in Angelgate (note from the curator, White Lebed) by Nepherses Amat</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/14/starax-the-legend-a-full-sim-art-exhibition-in-angelgate-note-from-the-curator-white-lebed/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Nepherses Amat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes White! It was marvelous! I, as one of the estate managers, was completely taken by suprise as well! SophiaJane and Jeri certainly planned a GREAT show for us all! I must thank you for coming to Jeri’s defense as well! Thank you White! I hope SophiaJane continues to network so creatively!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes White! It was marvelous! I, as one of the estate managers, was completely taken by suprise as well! SophiaJane and Jeri certainly planned a GREAT show for us all! I must thank you for coming to Jeri’s defense as well! Thank you White! I hope SophiaJane continues to network so creatively!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starax: The legend - a full sim art exhibition in Angelgate (note from the curator, White Lebed) by White Lebed</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/14/starax-the-legend-a-full-sim-art-exhibition-in-angelgate-note-from-the-curator-white-lebed/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>White Lebed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for coming and inspecting the sculptures, Sasun.   
And thank you for taking this issue so seriously and doing additional research.   
And especially, thank you for taking your time to break it down in an easy to understand and digest form.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for coming and inspecting the sculptures, Sasun.<br />
And thank you for taking this issue so seriously and doing additional research.<br />
And especially, thank you for taking your time to break it down in an easy to understand and digest form.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starax: The legend - a full sim art exhibition in Angelgate (note from the curator, White Lebed) by Sasun Steinbeck</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/14/starax-the-legend-a-full-sim-art-exhibition-in-angelgate-note-from-the-curator-white-lebed/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasun Steinbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read my recent blog post about accusations of some of the items at the show being copybotted copies: http://sl-artgalleries.blogspot.com/2009/09/accusations-of-starax-forgery.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read my recent blog post about accusations of some of the items at the show being copybotted copies: <a href="http://sl-artgalleries.blogspot.com/2009/09/accusations-of-starax-forgery.html" rel="nofollow">http://sl-artgalleries.blogspot.com/2009/09/accusations-of-starax-forgery.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on do we ever really own art? by White Lebed</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/13/do-we-ever-really-own-art/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>White Lebed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought after almost two years in SL I had learned almost everything SL generally and SL art paricularly.  Turned out there is much more to it.  Looks like I became quite an expert in virtual art forgery topic lol  Can't wait till I have some free time to hit fishy art traders in search for fake art. 
Creating really good copies is not easy.  In a way, it is a form of art.  May be we should have also a "History of SL Art... forgery"? with examples and comparisons.  I am afraid it would be even harder to get the creators of the "masterpieces" to the opening event...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought after almost two years in SL I had learned almost everything SL generally and SL art paricularly.  Turned out there is much more to it.  Looks like I became quite an expert in virtual art forgery topic lol  Can&#8217;t wait till I have some free time to hit fishy art traders in search for fake art.<br />
Creating really good copies is not easy.  In a way, it is a form of art.  May be we should have also a &#8220;History of SL Art&#8230; forgery&#8221;? with examples and comparisons.  I am afraid it would be even harder to get the creators of the &#8220;masterpieces&#8221; to the opening event&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starax: The legend - a full sim art exhibition in Angelgate (note from the curator, White Lebed) by Jeri Rahja</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/14/starax-the-legend-a-full-sim-art-exhibition-in-angelgate-note-from-the-curator-white-lebed/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeri Rahja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have loved these statutes the moment I set my eyes upon them - Starax is responsible for adding so much beauty to SL - I bought my first statute with 24 hrs of being in SL and my collection just took off - not only with Starax but with so many other along with my sims to hold all this beauty - found with this this termendous never never land. However, never have I met such anger and greed in such a land, instead of joy of the a persons colection whether it be one statute or many.  I take such joy in looking at other people's collection's.     
I see who they are - why they smile or what makes them weep.  But I am finding here in SL this saddly may not tbe the case - and that is not what a collection is about.  A collection is your soul. Thank you all for coming and seeing a little part of me.  Jeri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have loved these statutes the moment I set my eyes upon them - Starax is responsible for adding so much beauty to SL - I bought my first statute with 24 hrs of being in SL and my collection just took off - not only with Starax but with so many other along with my sims to hold all this beauty - found with this this termendous never never land. However, never have I met such anger and greed in such a land, instead of joy of the a persons colection whether it be one statute or many.  I take such joy in looking at other people&#8217;s collection&#8217;s.<br />
I see who they are - why they smile or what makes them weep.  But I am finding here in SL this saddly may not tbe the case - and that is not what a collection is about.  A collection is your soul. Thank you all for coming and seeing a little part of me.  Jeri</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creativity Unbound -STARAX The Legend by Sasun Steinbeck</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/12/creativity-unbound-starax-the-legend/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasun Steinbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Gary, you said it well. How can someone in their right mind say that these works need to be protected by HIDING them? Really the ONLY way to stop a copybotter is to delete the original. If you don't do that, then there's just no sense in freaking out every time you rez it. 

People need to be aware of the magic "inspect" command and USE it when purchasing an expensive item (or ANY item!) 2nd hand to avoid buying a copybotted version. It can EASILY be used to make forgeries painfully obvious. If 99% of the prims in your potential purchase are made by someone OTHER than who you expect, then guess what? It's a forgery! Don't buy it and immediately abuse report the person that tried to sell it to you!

If you buy a sculpture and don't check it out, and wind up with a forgery, well you have no one to blame but yourself, especially when it's SO easy to find out before you buy. I just don't see how copybotters are going to make a whit of difference in the value of the legit copies, no one is going to buy an easily spotted fake! They'll be busted and abuse reported for copybotting. With illegal copies so hard to resell, I just don't buy the argument that there's any real danger to copybotting here.

Go enjoy the art! It's just way too good to hide away! People need to see this stuff, it's part of the historical record of art in SL and needs to be seen, despite the minor and overblown dangers of people selling illegal copies. Kudos to SophiaJane, White, and Jeri for making this all possible and putting up with the senseless crap over their good intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Gary, you said it well. How can someone in their right mind say that these works need to be protected by HIDING them? Really the ONLY way to stop a copybotter is to delete the original. If you don&#8217;t do that, then there&#8217;s just no sense in freaking out every time you rez it. </p>
<p>People need to be aware of the magic &#8220;inspect&#8221; command and USE it when purchasing an expensive item (or ANY item!) 2nd hand to avoid buying a copybotted version. It can EASILY be used to make forgeries painfully obvious. If 99% of the prims in your potential purchase are made by someone OTHER than who you expect, then guess what? It&#8217;s a forgery! Don&#8217;t buy it and immediately abuse report the person that tried to sell it to you!</p>
<p>If you buy a sculpture and don&#8217;t check it out, and wind up with a forgery, well you have no one to blame but yourself, especially when it&#8217;s SO easy to find out before you buy. I just don&#8217;t see how copybotters are going to make a whit of difference in the value of the legit copies, no one is going to buy an easily spotted fake! They&#8217;ll be busted and abuse reported for copybotting. With illegal copies so hard to resell, I just don&#8217;t buy the argument that there&#8217;s any real danger to copybotting here.</p>
<p>Go enjoy the art! It&#8217;s just way too good to hide away! People need to see this stuff, it&#8217;s part of the historical record of art in SL and needs to be seen, despite the minor and overblown dangers of people selling illegal copies. Kudos to SophiaJane, White, and Jeri for making this all possible and putting up with the senseless crap over their good intentions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on do we ever really own art? by Sapphoria Shilova</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/13/do-we-ever-really-own-art/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapphoria Shilova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Gary.  I have to confess, I am really outraged by this trumped up controversy; it's a terrible injustice to the artwork, artist and all who have been impacted by the art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Gary.  I have to confess, I am really outraged by this trumped up controversy; it&#8217;s a terrible injustice to the artwork, artist and all who have been impacted by the art.</p>
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		<title>Comment on do we ever really own art? by garykohime</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/13/do-we-ever-really-own-art/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>garykohime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &lt;strong&gt;very poetic and passionate post&lt;/strong&gt; Sapphoria. You present a long overlooked aspect of art, albeit perhaps the single most important reason for art to exist; the enjoyment by ALL. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <strong>very poetic and passionate post</strong> Sapphoria. You present a long overlooked aspect of art, albeit perhaps the single most important reason for art to exist; the enjoyment by ALL. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creativity Unbound -STARAX The Legend by garykohime</title>
		<link>http://angelgatelive.com/2009/09/12/creativity-unbound-starax-the-legend/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>garykohime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very lovely and eloquent post Sophia, thank you not only for providing the space of this important art to be shown, but also your continued support for art in Second Life. Your altruistic and compassionate nature is recognized by many!
 
I also believe it should be on public display. If we all worried about copybots or 'love of the ego' to the point that we are living or creating inside of fear isn't that contrary to free form creative expression? 

Also, if you look at the former rezzable sims, much of Light Waves works were out all over. Why would they not have worried about this?

I have just posted extensively on this topic on my blog: &lt;a href="http://www.apoetsblues.com/2009/09/to-show-or-not-to-show-virtual-art.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;To Show or Not to Show Virtual Art&lt;/a&gt;

Again, thank you Sophia, White Lebed and especially Jeri Rahja</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very lovely and eloquent post Sophia, thank you not only for providing the space of this important art to be shown, but also your continued support for art in Second Life. Your altruistic and compassionate nature is recognized by many!</p>
<p>I also believe it should be on public display. If we all worried about copybots or &#8216;love of the ego&#8217; to the point that we are living or creating inside of fear isn&#8217;t that contrary to free form creative expression? </p>
<p>Also, if you look at the former rezzable sims, much of Light Waves works were out all over. Why would they not have worried about this?</p>
<p>I have just posted extensively on this topic on my blog: <a href="http://www.apoetsblues.com/2009/09/to-show-or-not-to-show-virtual-art.html" rel="nofollow">To Show or Not to Show Virtual Art</a></p>
<p>Again, thank you Sophia, White Lebed and especially Jeri Rahja</p>
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